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GZealot



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PostSubject: Blood Angels Razorback list 2.0   Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:38 pm

So with the new blood angels book a decent about of stuff changed with my previous design of Marine razorback army. Taking a suggestion made by my cousin I spawned this interesting design of a list.

HQ
Reclusiarch
Melta bombs
135pts

Troops
Assualt Squad x5
Sergeant(thunder Hammer)
Razorback(twin linked Heavy bolter)
150pts

Assault Squad x6
Meltagun, Sergeant(Power fist)
Razorback(Twin linked heavy bolter)
173pts

Assault Squad x6
Meltagun, Sergeant(Power fist)
Razorback(Twin linked heavy bolter)
173pts

Assault Squad x6
Flamer, Sergeant(Power weapon)
Razorback(Twin linked lascannon)
193pts

Assault Squad x6
Flamer, Sergeant(Power weapon)
Razorback(Twin linked lascannon)
193pts

Elites
Furioso
Extra armor
140pts

Furioso
Extra armor
140pts

Fast Attack
Baal Predator
Heavy Bolter sponsons
140pts

Baal Predator
Heavy Bolter sponsons
140pts

Heavy Support
Devastator Squad x5
Missile Launcher x4
Razorback(Twin linked Heavy bolter
185pts

Devastator Squad x5
Heavy bolter x4
Razorback(twin linked lascannon)
220pts

total comes to 1982
In 1850pt game I drop a furioso

Whatca guys think? I'm actually digging this format a lot requires me to re convert a bunch of models but that doesn't bother me too much.
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Baneon



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PostSubject: Re: Blood Angels Razorback list 2.0   Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:31 pm

Been toying with the new book myself for a more forgiving learn the rules 40k army cause my guard have been tearing me a new one recently. I'm a little to aggressive and straight line to my objective then that army should be played. Trying to avoid the traps in the list though has been problimatic. Your cousin has been trying to get me to play with vanilla marines but I really liked the Blood Angels models. I've gotten 1 Sang guard box (not really intending to play them much but I liked em) and 2 boxes of Death Company. DC is really expensive though so I might just go with 5 of em for 2000 and up it to 10 if I'm higher points value. I think the squad topped at 500 points with jetpacks and 2 TF, 2 PF and 2 Inferno guns. 1/4th my army just seemed to much. Think I'm going to try for a 2 Tac 2 Assault mix for scoring and then figure the rest out.
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PostSubject: Re: Blood Angels Razorback list 2.0   Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:08 pm

Dude your spending way too many points in different war gear items for the death company. You really don't need all that stuff to make them a good assault unit. The list wouldn't work probably in Vanilla marines because I can't use special weapons in the tactical units. I designed an alternative list that had 6 man tactical squads with combi weapon sergeant but I feel like this list design is stronger than that one. Even though i don't have boltguns I have plenty of supporting fire for all of the assault squads and I have some neat models I can convert now. As I said before I took my list design from the PDF blood angels book and reworked it for the new book.
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PostSubject: Re: Blood Angels Razorback list 2.0   Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:52 pm

I'll tone down the DC and see what I come up with. Maybe I'll bounce the list up here and see what you think. Thanks.

And your list looks sharp I'm going to shamelessly steal some ideas out of it. Look forward to seeing it on the table.
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PostSubject: Re: Blood Angels Razorback list 2.0   Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:10 pm

Thanks, I'm always willing to help design Armies. =) I'm also really looking forward to start building it again but I won't be able to work on it for about another month.
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PostSubject: Re: Blood Angels Razorback list 2.0   Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:53 am

Well I sat down last night and did some work, this is definitely not the final version as I'm about 100 points over the 2k mark.

Reclusiarch w/ Jet Pack

10 Tactical marines w/ Flamer, Missile Launcher & Rhino
10 Tactical marines w/ Flamer, Missile Launcher & Rhino
6 Assault Marines w/ Razorback & Lacannons
6 Assault Marines w/ Razorback & Lacannons
10 Death Company w/ Jetpacks

Baal Predator w/ HBs
Baal Predator w/ HBs

Dev Sqd w/ 4 Missiles, Razorback with Lascannons
Dev Sqd w/ 4 Missiles, Razorback with Lascannons

Now what I started contemplating this morning is the jump packs on the Death Company. Between them and the Reclusiarch that's a whoppin 185pts (missing 65 for a LR), if I can come up with some more points I can mount them in a Land Raider instead and get the same effect. The points could come from a Tac Squad changing into an Assault Squad (netting 67pts so pays for the change from JPs to LR), however at that point it might be worth upgrading them with a Power Fist and a Thunderhammer. I'd have to drop to 10 total in the DC squad so 1 gets dropped for 20 pts so I'm 81 pts over and needing to make some points for some gubbins in the squad (don't want them getting hit by a walker and not being able to hurt it).
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PostSubject: Re: Blood Angels Razorback list 2.0   Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:25 am

I think your focusing on too much anti tank with all the lascannons when you already have a bunch of Missile Launchers. Here is what I did to rework that list you have added extra support fire and still kept some anti tank.

Reclusiarch
Jump pack
155

Tactical squad x10
Meltagun, Missile Launcher(Razorback Twin linked heavy bolter)
230

Tactical squad x10
Meltagun, Missile Launcher(Razorback Twin linked heavy bolter)
230

Assault Squad x6
Razorback(Twin linked Lascannon)
173

Assault Squad x6
Razorback(Twin linked Lascannon)
173

Death Company x10
Jump packs
350

Baal predator
Heavy Bolter Sponsons
140

Baal predator
Heavy Bolter Sponsons
140

Devastator Squad x 5
Missile Launcher x4, Razorback(Twin linked Heavy bolter)
185

Devastator Squad x 5
Missile Launcher x4, Razorback(Twin linked Heavy bolter)
185

Total 1961 pts leaving 38 points to spend how you would like.
The only bad thing about this design is you really should split the tactical squads into combat squads which will give 2 more extra kill points to the enemy but allows you more flexiblity on troop placement. you have plenty of anti-tank Land raiders though some what common in friendly games are much less common in tournament play.. but with the new blood angels that might change. I seriously toyed with making a 3-4 landraider army with the blood angels that would be for 1850. I doubt I would ever make it though.
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PostSubject: Re: Blood Angels Razorback list 2.0   Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:32 am

Thanks Greg, looks good. They LR wasn't so much for more Anti tank but a delivery system for the Death Company. Almost the same points as the Jetpacks they have and has a physical model on the board that can affect the game other then moving the DC around.
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PostSubject: Re: Blood Angels Razorback list 2.0   Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:44 pm

are you droping the jump packs on the assault squads for the razorbacks? and why?
GZealot wrote:

Assault Squad x6
Razorback(Twin linked Lascannon)
173

Assault Squad x6
Razorback(Twin linked Lascannon)
173
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PostSubject: Re: Blood Angels Razorback list 2.0   Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:01 am

Yes and it gives you 35 pts off the transport.
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